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I am a bowhunter of 30 years big game experience, have taken way more than my share of Pope and Young qualifying animals in those years. I love wilderness areas and places few other humans ever wander, especially when seeking places to fish for big trout in timberline lakes. I found a set of a couple dozen 17 inch long sasquatch tracks in the South San Juan Wilderness across a dirt slide which perked my interest in the possibilities (who would fake 17 inch human-like tracks in such a remote area?). So, in spite of how ridiculous the notion of sasquatch seemed to me and others, I started collecting sightings from other bowhunters and eventually got 6 sightings and track find reports from Colorado hunting guides and outfitters. Some of these sightings by hunting guides were long term daytime sightings, one of which was from less than 30 yards distance in broad daylight while the hunting guide was bugling for elk. Another guide in Colorado watched a sasquatch sunning itself by a beaver pond for over 10 minutes through binoculars at a range of 125 yards. Long enough and close enough to see detail of the face. None of these experienced Colorado outdoorsmen seemed to be making up their stories. Weird, but true none-the-less, that these reports were made to me. A few years ago I investigated a set of 19 inch long tracks along the Eagle River that were found by fishermen in the month of March. Another set had been found by fishermen near Gypsum about 7 miles from the set I investigated in the same time frame. The local CDOW biologist, local law enforcement and myself came to the conclusion that this 19 inch long set of tracks were “genuine” and not hoaxed. Several foot experts anthropologests also came to the conclusion that the set of tracks from the incident were not faked. Pretty neat, but weird of course. A search of local historical archives in that area revealed that sasquatch have been reported from that area by white men since the 1880’s, as detailed in an article from an 1880’s newspaper article from Leadville of miners and hunters seeing sasquatch there. The indians that lived in that area previously of course had tales of sasquatch, just like all indian cultures of western North America. All of the indian stories and the miner sightings and current bowhunter sightings are all of the same critter. An upright walking hairy man-like creature of large size, usually dark brown to reddish tinted hair, that leaves these huge somewhat human-like tracks that I found and have investigated a few times that others have found.
So, here I am, an experienced bowhunter, who found tracks of a creature that can not possibly exist, in my favorite stomping grounds in a wilderness in my favorite state of Colorado. Is sasquatch real? Hell, I don’t know, but I am pretty sure its tracks are real. Bear tracks just are not 17 to 19 inches long and are not all that human-like. I am in a mental stalemate, my mind tells me that sasquatch can not be a real creature, but my eyes tell me that the tracks are real. I also listen to very serious hunting guides in Colorado as the relate to me their very personal experiences with sasquatch, and just know they are telling me the truth.
Overall, I have no trouble thinking that it is insane to think that sasquatch could possibly exist, but have very much trouble believing my own eyes in regards to the tracks I found and have investigated along with CDOW and local law officials. A deputy sheriff also video taped a series of two sets of 19 inch and 21 inch long tracks down near where I found that set of tracks. The tracks he recorded were in snow and mud and he followed them for over 1/2 mile as they wandered along the backside of a local ranchers land along the treeline and up a valley with a stride of about 48 inches long going uphill. The deputy said that in the better tracks in the mud, he could even see where the tracks showed chisel like toeneal imprints and the front of the toes very much like human toenails as the sasquatch evidently curled its toes downward into the mud to get a grip when walking uphill in slippery conditions. Pretty weird.
So, overall, we have Colorado hunting guides, bowhunters, hunters, and general hikers seeing and reporting the same exact kind of critter, and we have these tracks that are all pretty standard in Colorado being found every so often and recorded. We have law agencies and CDOW biologists investigating the tracks from time to time, scratching their heads, and filing them away. Sasquatch can not possibly be real, so why bother pursuing the stupid thing?
Though I still have trouble believing that sasquatch could be real, I do have opinion to what it might be if it exists. I think that if it exists it can only be one thing. I think it could possibly be a predator that has a social system similar to the orangutan. Orangutans are not highly social primates, but live pretty much to themselves except during breeding. Orangs have territories that they protect and keep other orangs out of, especially orangs of the same gender. Cougars have a very similar social system. Sasquatch tracks are always found in high elk density areas at the times that elk are there, so I think that sasquatch specialize in preying on elk. I think that sasquatch males protect a large area of territory and that they are very much rarer than cougars. Dominant male cougars may have a territory of over 125 square miles, and I think that for a sasquatch to survive a male sasquatch may keep a territory of over 400 square miles to himself. I think they are very much more intelligent than a cougar and much better at avoiding humans. Kind of like a cougar with the brains of a chimpanzee, which would be almost impossible to hunt. I think that if sasquatch exist at all, that the track finds and sightings indicate that there are three main areas in Colorado that have them. These three areas are the South San Juan Wilderness and adjacent national forests, the Holy Cross Wilderness and adjacent forests, and the Lost Creek Wilderness and adjacent forest areas. Especially where elk densities are highest in those three areas. This is where the lions share of the tracks and sightings are being found. Like cougars, when someone sees a saquatch, it is almost always alone, and usually the indications are that it is a youngish adult sasquatch of from 7 to 8 foot tall with tracks around 15 to 17 inches longs. Tracks up to 22 inches long have been found and recorded, but the largest set I have personally investigated were the 19 inch tracks from the Eagle River just east of Eagle Colorado. Several of our nations best physical anthropologists have determined that the tracks are very real and fit into a very specific anatomy. I agree with them on the track morphology, but still have a very hard time accepting the reality of the track makers.
Is sasquatch a very rare type of predator primate that came over here from Asia during the ice age and a few of them still remain to hunt elk in our western forests? We have a few fossil pieces of such a large primate from Asia, and most Asian animals migrated here from the old world, so I suppose that this primate could have come to American shores to. All I know is that I found those tracks and heard many tales from other bowhunters and hunting guides from Colorado, along with investigating several other tracks since. Like I said, I have a hard time believeing that a creature such as sasquatch could exist, yet have a hard time disbelieving my own eyes or the serious stories from hunting guides. Sasquatch can not be real, but it’s tracks are real, is my opinion. So maybe the sightings from Colorado hunting guides are real too. ???
For you other bowhunters who have harvested most every other big game animal in Colorado with your bow and want another challange, here it is. You will be hunting this quarry with a camcorder instead of a bow and arrow. It is a predator that preys on elk. It is well furred, large and very very rare in any one area. It likes to spend its days in cool or cold environments and hates heat. It stays pretty much to the deep forest areas where it waits for elk going to or returning from bedding areas. It avoids human trails and human contact almost completely. It knows human habits and elk habits. In summer it likes heavily forested north slope exposures because they are up to 10 degrees cooler than other places in the mountains. It seems to usually be seen near standing water, such as small lakes or beaver ponds in that environment, though streams seem to also be part of its travel routes.
The whole reason I am writing here is that last May (May 29 of 2003) a sasquatch was reported on a trail to Mt. Elbert as detailed in this link from the BFRO http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=6785 Perhaps sasquatch are creatures of habit and that a sasquatch will be in that area in the last weeks of May or first weeks of June in 2004. This is only a couple months away and time enough to plan to intercept it on its travel route. Maybe that sasquatch lives there year around, or maybe it was only traveling through, or maybe sasquatch do not exist at all. But, if they do exist, here is at least a better chance to encounter one of them perhaps. Sasquatch are the ultimate quarry I suppose, or maybe a wild goose chase, you decide. In any event, just being in the woods away from the rat race for any reason is a good thing in my opinion. It is too far for me to drive to the Mt Elbert area for a sasquatch hunt in May, but maybe some of you guys live closer and can have a chance to get good video of a sasquatch there this coming May. As you experienced bowhunters know, it is nearly impossible to find tracks of any soft footed animals there, due to rocky compacted soil and pine needles everywhere, so finding tracks is very rare and very unlikely. Maybe there will still be some snow on to help with that. In spite of sasquatch size and weight, they only make tracks about as deep as barefooted human or bear tracks in any type of soil, simply because their feet are big too. On the tracks I have investigated, such as the 19 inch tracks at Eagle, the depth of track was the same as human tracks, which indicated a weight of about 900 pounds to have the same weight per square inch of foot bottom in comparison to the human tracks at the same location and condition of soil. Someone faking the tracks would have had to have had a pile driver to get the huge tracks as deep as normal human tracks, because of the size. Our investigations of the tracks reveal that the sasquatch seem to have about the same weight per square inch of foot bottom as human, which makes them very heavy when you encounter a set of tracks nearly or over 20 inches long. You can not really envision the immense size of these tracks until you see them yourself in person. I have seen 12 inch grizzly tracks in person, and these sasquatch tracks dwarf them. Of course grizzlies walk on four feet, so they spread their weight amongst four legs, so don’t need all that big of feet to get around on. I have size 13 feet, only 12 inches long, and only weigh about 200 pounds. Sasquatch are apparently much larger and much heavier if the tracks and sightings are any indication. Similar in body mass to coastal grizzly bears, with males often over 1000 pounds. Some of the tracks I have investigated were every bit as deep as human tracks, yet so much larger that if they were faked the hoaxer would have had to be wearing a 700 pound backpack and taking steps over 48 inches long while walking uphill. If they were faked, I have not figured out how. The tracks were definitely not drawn into the ground, but rather naturally pressed into the ground, even showing flexibility in the toes and such. Like I said, sasquatch can’t be real of course, but the tracks are real. Hope you get to come across a sasquatch or at least its tracks some day, and then you will know what I am talking about.
In any event, believe in sasquatch or not, there is a chance to meet one on a trail to Mt Elbert in late may or early June of 2004. If you can’t be there, try the Lost Creek Wilderness in December or January of next year, the more remote the better. Maybe it’s a wild goose chase, or maybe not. The ultimate quarry may be out there waiting. Colorado has from 4000 to 10,000 cougars, depending on who you ask, and you know how hard it is to even get to see one of them. What if cougars had the brains of a primate and there were only less than 100 of them in the whole state of Colorado? Now you know what you are up against, if it exists at all. The tracks exist, and they are huge, but what are those tracks from? The tracks themselves seem to match the animal reported by the hunting guides, bowhunters, hunters and hikers, so maybe it does exist.
Go out, sit down by a tree in the dark forest at night in late May at 11,500 foot elevation on a trail to Mt Elbert and just bugle on your elk bugle to wake up and perk the curiosity of any nearby forest grimlin. Then just sit silently in full camoflage and scent shield and see if anything shows up. It is a different way of hunting, but it might get exciting. A bugling elk in the spring time at night would sure perk my interest if I was a nocturnal elk hunting ape. Maybe one will show up if it is within a mile or so of you. You might never see it if it does come to check out the night noises, but maybe you will. Maybe you will get to hear its own vocalizations to ponder for the rest of your life.
For some reason, even though I am a grown man and know better, I get a little tingle up the spine when sitting quietly alone at night in the quiet forest on a cold north slope of dense forest far from any other human. My senses are at their highest, and I am keen to every forest sound. Stepfalls of animals become louder, elk breaking deadfalls sound so much bigger than they do by daylight. I feel very alive, but also feel out of place. I feel like I belong there, but also feel like an intruder. I didn’t feel this way until after I found those huge tracks that fit the sasquatch mold in that beloved remote deep forest habitat. Now I live in a world with something that makes huge human-like tracks in a place where before I only found elk and deer tracks and an occaisional bear track. If a 1000 pound, 9 foot tall ape comes walking into your Colorado wilderness world some night, it will make the forest nights more interesting from then on.
Any reason to get into the backcountry with a backpack on at any time of year is a good reason, so just do it.
Bear, I prefer to go it alone instead of with a large group, simply because that is the way I am successful bowhunting too. Several of the bfro people are good investigators however and you could learn much about preserving evidence and such from them. They will be broadcasting what they think might be recordings of sasquatch vocalizations, so that will be interesting, but more likely to be successful if employed alone or with only two people instead of a large group of noisy people.
In regards to sasquatch vocalizations. My sons and I heard what may have been a sasquatch screaming at us in the SSJWilderness. The sound was different than any other animal sound I have ever heard and much louder. The source sounded to be about 100 yards from us with willows between us and the sound maker. Hard to describe the very loud sound, but it sounded kind of like car tires peeling out on dry concrete with kind of a gravelly nature to it. Really, really loud and scary sounding noise to hear in the forest at close range. It also had a resounding nature to it that you could feel as well as hear, similar to the way you can actually feel an African lions roar when it is close by you. Since we did not see what was screaming at us, we canâ€™t really say it was a sasquatch, but I have no idea what else could make that noise. Some of the recordings of supposed sasquatch noises sound very similar to what we heard. Others donâ€™t sound anything like what we heard. Al Herrin, of Traditional Bowhunter Magazine, had a similar incident of a screamer south of Silverton. South of Silverton is where 4 bowhunters reported catching a sasquatch in the open in the Twin Sisters area. They all reported the same well furred heavily muscled man-like creature that ran in full view of them for some 200 yards across open ground while they were there elk hunting. They had taken bear with their archery equipment, so knew it was no bear. Bears donâ€™t run on their back legs anyway. I donâ€™t think they conspired to make up the story, so you can decide what they saw and reported. So that area might be a good place to go look for sasquatch in the archery season period. Two motorcycle riders reported seeing a sasquatch above a timberline while riding east of Silverton. They were speeding along and evidently got between it and the cover of the forest below. They reported that it evidently felt threatened because it started screaming at them and hurling large rocks down on them. One of them was almost hit with the first throw, which is what alerted them to its presence in the first place. They left of course. Quite a few other bowhunters have heard those loud odd screaming/roaring sounds that are unmistakingly out of place and abnormal for Colorado, but we just canâ€™t say for sure it is a sasquatch making the noises heard.
As for protection, one would want a weapon capable of stopping a coastal grizzly charge. I donâ€™t think you have to worry about it, because I donâ€™t know of anybody killed by a sasquatch. There are only a few cases where something killed a hunter and left tracks at the scene that might have been sasquatch tracks. I have never investigated any attacks personally, so have no idea as to any merit of the few incidents. Most encounters where a sasquatch has been aggressive were false charges similar to the way a gorilla bluff charges. A chase, and thatâ€™s it. A sasquatch could easily catch a man, so they evidently donâ€™t want to come into physical contact for the most part. Rock throwing is very common however. If large rocks start plopping down around you in the wilds, you might want to investigate the source.
Back in the 60â€™s there were places in northern California and southern Oregon where just about anyone could go out for a few days of searching and find at least one set of sasquatch tracks, due to the ashy nature of the soil there. Hundreds upon hundreds of sets were found there by very many people and documented during that period. They were all pretty standard in shape, but varied only in sizes found. Nowadays you can go to the same area and search for months on end and never find a set, which does not bode well for sasquatch there. I spent over 300 days in the SSJWilderness in southern Colorado and found only one set of sasquatch tracks there. So searching for tracks in Colorado is pretty tough because of the rocky nature compacted nature of the soils. Soft footed animals are very hard to track in Colorado environment. Two other Colorado outfitters have found sasquatch tracks in the SSJWilderness area, so there is a chance to find them if enough time is spent there. While hunting elk there in 1975 we found grizzly diggings on a hillside with grizzly tracks in the turned soil. That was about 3 miles from where Wiseman was attacked by a grizzly sow in 79. We told the local game officer about the diggings and the tracks when he checked our permits in camp, but I guess no one officially investigated the diggings or the tracks. We found no grizzly sign there before or since, so they are probably extinct there. One interesting thing happened in the SSJWilderness with a conservation group scoured the area for grizzly sign in the early 80â€™s. They found a 15 inch track in the edge of an elk wallow that was determined not to be a grizzly track. Interestingly the track was like a huge wide human track with 5 toes and no claw marks. So they were searching for grizzly spoor and find a 15 inch long human-like track. They make no claim as to what the track was from, but it is interesting non-the-less that they found it there. Interesting to me, because I found a whole line of that type of track there too, only difference being that the set I found was 17 inches long each and looked to have been made by a foot about 16 inches long and nearly 8 inches wide. Hope you guys get to find a set of these tracks for yourself some day.
It might be a good idea to be in a stout tree when calling at night. Might be a good idea to be pretty high up too, if a large sasquatch happens to come to you. Some of the tracks I have investigated in Colorado were pretty big and may indicate a pretty tall creature. If it has as long of arms as the Patterson film creature it can reach pretty high too. If you measure the relative length of the arm on the Patterson film subject, you will see that the arms are nearly as long as its legs. No human has arms that relatively long to leg length, which is why many anthropologists believe the film is genuine. If it was a man in a gorilla suit, you could get the arms that long with extensions, but you canâ€™t get the elbows to bend in the correct place as is clearly seen in the film. There have been 7 people so far that have claimed to have been the man in the gorilla suit that Patterson filmed. Just recently two more people have claimed to have been the person in the gorilla suit that Patterson filmed on that fateful day. None of those people have arms nearly as long as their legs, nor do their arms bend that far down at the elbow when walking. The film needs looked at scientifically as is, not just taking some persons word that he or she was the person in a gorilla suit. If I were Mrs. Patterson, I would get all 7 of these claimants in a courtroom at one time and sue their butts for defamation. I also wonder, if it was a person in a gorilla suit, how they got the arms to hang straight down in spite of the chest being wider than any human chest on the face of the earth. You could build out the chest width on a suit, but not also get the arms to swing straight down as is clearly evident in the film. When scientifically measured, you just can not get a human being to fit into the mode of where the joints bend on the Patterson film creature, which makes the film very interesting to me. Most people do not know that we also have photos of people with marked measuring sticks at the same location and the comparison to the dead trees in the area that make measuring the filmed creature very exact. Dead trees donâ€™t change size. When put to the test it puts Shaq Oâ€™neal to shame. It is about the same height as Shaq, but the chest is about twice as wide, and the arms still hang and swing straight down anyway. How do you do that with a gorilla suit? The thighs on the filmed creature are nearly the same diameter as Shaqâ€™s chest measurement and the upper arms are in comparison diameter to Shaqâ€™s thighs. And, that was just a little girly sasquatch that left 15 inch tracks. Can you imagine the critter that made the 19 inch tracks along the Eagle River a couple of years ago? Show me scientifically how one fakes the creature in the Patterson film, and I will say that it could be a faked film too. A doctor recently watched a good copy of the film and discovered that it has a torn muscle in its right thigh that bulges every time it puts weight on the right foot, which makes one wonder why a hoaxer would put that identifiable malady into the gorilla suit. Iâ€™m not a doctor, so I canâ€™t say whether he is right or wrong in his interpretation, but it is interesting. I will just stick to the measurement of relative joint locations in comparison to human joint locations and say that it differs quite a bit from any human ever measured.
Here is young Mr. Hodgeman at the exact location of the film Patterson made. Hodgeman is 6 foot tall and skinny built young man holding the measuring stick. We know this is compared exactly because we overlayed the dead trees in the background with the photos from the film and the photos of Hodgeman to get exact comparison of relative size. I place a photo of Shaq sized at the 7 foot level on the measuring stick being held by Hodgeman. Compare the mass of the filmed creature to Shaq. Same height, but oh so much more massive. Man in a gorilla suit? What man!
Here is 6 foot tall Hodgeman in a full view photo with several frame overlays from the film with the dead trees in the background sized exactly to each other to give relative size of each exactly. Remember that dead trees don’t change size and this Hodgeman comparison photo was taken only a couple weeks after the film was made. Other comparitive films and photos were made and all come out the same in relative size mode. The creature makes Mr. Hodgeman look like a skinny little elf doesn’t it?
If you want larger photos to look at, to do your own measurements, I would have to email them to you. Photo size is limited in this forum format, but I think that you can at least see the relative sizes here.
The photo came out pretty little, sorry. Hodgeman is the little guy in the white teeshirt in the photo in front of the four frames from the Patterson film. Hodgeman is standing facing the camera with his left arm extended holding the measuring stick. The tall dead trees are what is used to match up the photo and the film frames.
Ron, sasquatch are kind of like Kansas cougars. Bowhunters see them every so often, and they leave tracks that are found every so often, but they don’t exist. I have no trouble believing in a few cougars in Kansas, but have a hard time accepting the reality of any sasquatch anywhere, and this in spite of actually finding tracks of them myself. It is just too unbelievable to my mind, but the evidence is pretty dang good in spite of it. If I could get over the hump of my mental disbelief and trust the evidence, I would be better off maybe. I still need to see a dead body of one of them to be convinced completely, but several years of investigations into track finds and such have been very interesting to say the least.
Some hair was collected in Bhutan after a bunch of sightings of an apeman occurred there. The hair was fresh and sent to England and DNA analysed by Brian Sykes, on of Britain’s leading genetics experts. Conclusion was that it was a higher primate hair of unknown origin or species. There are only so many higher primates known, so comparison is easy. However, all we know about the hair sample is that it is from an unknown higher primate, not what that primate is.
Our knowledge and ability to extract DNA from samples of hair and scat is getting better all the time. If sasquatch incidents were treated like crime scene investigations, a series of consistencies would result through time if sasquatch is real. If sasquatch is not real the evidence would be inconsistent. No investigators have looked into fingerprints at the scene of equipment messed with and such, but it could be done. Dermal ridge expert and professional crime scene investigator Jimmy Chillcut seems to think that the dermal ridges evident in some tracks are consistent and unique to sasquatch feet, but it doesn’t make credible evidence to me yet. I am more impressed with the consistent foot morphology on hundreds of tracks from hundreds of different cases, collected by hundreds of different people from hundreds of different places. The tracks I found and have investigated are of the same morphology too, so that inspires me to at least be interested in the whole subject. Morphology not only includes shape, but also length to width ratio, unique attributes of toe placement, relative toe sizes, relative toe flexibility, foot flexion placement, weight distribution in the print, flexion crease placement and others. General track lay-out is also consistent and uniquely different from human. Some of the criteria have never been publicized for fear that some hoaxer will make tracks consistant with the baseline criteria. Some of criteria even I don’t know, so when I collected track evidence from a scene, I passed it on to the physical anthropologists who do know and they would evaluate the tracks for that particular criteria.
Scat evidence might be useful in the future, if we know what to look for. One bowhunter contacted me last time we brought this subject up on this forum and said he found some odd scat that appeared to have been latrined over a period of time. Weasel family creatures are latrine animals that return to the same locations time and again to defacate. The very outsized scat he described, all in one area did not fit the norm for any other creature, so perhaps he had accidently happened upon a sasquatch latrine. Other theories are that since sasquatch is a predator it buries its feces like a cat or it covers it somehow with a deadfall or something or defacates in running water. I know that when I have the call of nature while bowhunting I either bury it or lay a log on top of it in timber country. Separating DNA from bacterial contamination is getting better and better, so if you find any scat that fits no known animal that you can think of, collect it without touching it and bring it home with you and contact Dr. Jeff Meldrum at Idaho State University asap. If you are in Utah, you can contact their wildlife department because they have a biologist who is waiting for your sample. The only Colorado biologist who would be very interested just recently retired. Wyoming hunters can contact Dr. George Gill at their University and he will take the sample properly. Dr. Gill took the hair samples from a Wyoming incident that involved one of their wildlife biologists who saw a sasquatch that broke through one of those split rail fences and left some hair samples behind. It was before the days of DNA extraction, but the hair morphology was most similar to chimpanzee hair but with some differences when studied. The samples were sent to two different labs, only one of which ran did analysis. The other lab lost it’s sample and the former lab eventually lost the samples Dr. Gill had sent. If we still had those two samples collected by a trained biologist with a personal sighting, it would be a step in the right direction. Actually, Wyoming has had two of its own state employed biologists actually see a sasquatch in that state. Sasquatch sightings and sign have dropped off drastically of late in most areas however. A few places in Colorado and northern New Mexico and a few places in British Colombia down into Washington and Idaho still show some promise, but overall I think that sasquatch will be extinct before too long and we won’t have to worry about it. We will probably find bones in some cave in about 50 years, but sasquatch will may be gone for good by then.
Why haven’t we found any fossil bones of this rare primate? Gigantopithicus existed in Asia for well over 1 million years, yet you could put all the fossils we have of it into a 1 gallon bucket. If such a creature migrated to North America and has only lived here for less than 30,000 years, how many fossils of it would be available for study? Maybe they have been here longer, because we have a human-like primate hair extracted from a cave deposit of mineral deposits over 100,000 years old. All have agreed that the hair is over 100,000 years old, but have not agreed as to the species that wore it, human or some other higher primate. What other North American higher primate is there besides human? Interesting, but inconclusive.
It is all interesting thus far, but all is inconclusive. Sasquatch simply do not exist, in spite of the hairs that can’t be identified. Dr. Henner Fahrenbach of the Oregon Primate Research Center (a medical research facility), has 7 samples of hair from 7 different incidents that are consistent with each other, of unknown species origin, a higher primate morphology, all collected in western North America, but what are they from?
If there are less than 100 sasquatch in all of Colorado, they would hardly ever be seen, tracks very rarely ever found, and absolutely about zero chance of happening upon a fresh enough carcass of one of them to be identifiable. I say that you could lay a sasquatch femur in a human foot trail in Yellowstone National Park and people would step over it until someone finally threw that big “buffalo” bone off the trail so someone wouldn’t trip over it. I have seen unidentfiable pieces of skull bones in the woods, and never gave them more than passing interest as to the species that left it. A sasquatch jaw with a few teeth left in it might last a year or two on the forest floor provided one happened across it and knew the jaw was anything other than a part of an elk or moose jaw. This is provided a bear did not chew it up first upon smelling it while fresh, with the rodents not far behind getting their calcium supply. The teeth might last for 10 or more years, little white jewels buried by pine needles quickly, forever lost to science, and certainly hard to find in millions of acres of western forests.
There are good answers to every question as to why sasquatch could live in America’s western forests and remain undiscovered officially. The main answer being that very few are looking for evidence of it because it is impossible for it to be here.
My questions are, If sasquatch is real, then why wasn’t one shot and brought in when miners and hunters were shooting everything that walked in America’s west during the 1850’s to 1910’s. 60 years of wholesale slaughter of large animals in western America? Seems to me that at least one would have been killed and brought out then. In my research into Kansas cougars, I have no trouble seeing how sasquatch avoid modern science, but still have trouble seeing how they avoided buffalo Bill and his ilk. However, I think back still to the article from the 1880’s Leadville Colorado Newspaper and how miners were very scared of a sasquatch in a stream drainage in what is now the Holy Cross Wilderness. A good experienced hunter went into the area to put an end to the “monster” and was unsuccessful in his hunt. I think about how in the 1940’s the U.S. Army supposedly lost a member of it’s Mountain Division training in the area snowy forests, with the only evidence of his disappearance being some of the soldiers articles, blood in the snow, and huge human-like footprints. Such stories are nothing but old newspaper articles and tales by local residents still living in the area. Relagated to myth, not fact, especially with the passing of time. All the “tales” from the original native (indian) inhabitants of that land are relegated to absolute myth, not fact, because it is a known fact that the original natives of this land were backward idiots who knew nothing of their own environment.
Keep in mind that Asian aborigines tales of giant primates in their forests were relegated to “complete” myth by European contacts until such time as fossils of real giant primates began to trickle back to the “real” world.
The Jemez Pueblo came into the area of southern Colorado and northern New Mexico in the early 14th century and have plenty of “tales” and “myths” of giant hairy manlike beasts encountered in the high ponderosa forests in the very areas where I found just such tracks in 1993. They even named at least one pueblo city after the man creature. I had never even heard of or considered such a creature being in Colorado until 1993 and my track find, but my research in that area found that a government bear hunter named Willford had encountered a huge upright walking bear of some sort in that same area in the 1870’s and his stories of how the native indians would not go into certain areas because of this creature. I think these are interesting “tales” because of my own experiences with tracks and sounds that don’t belong to reality in just that exact area. Maybe I spent too much time in the woods and slipped into some alter realm where furry monsters that leave outsize human tracks and make horrible noises really do exist. If some thing starts throwing huge rocks at me from some hidden location there some day, I will not run away from it but rather take off running toward it to see just what the hell it is. If it kills me, I hope a crime scene investigation is done thoroughly. For now though, I have quit collecting sasquatch evidence and just wait for it to come to me while I am out there fishing a timberline lake of bowhunting some herd bull or timberline buck.
You know, I don’t expect a single one of you to even start to really believe that sasquatch could be anything but a native myth or misidentified bear by some outdoors inexperienced white neophyte citified backpaker. I still don’t “believe” in sasquatch after finding it’s tracks and hearing those aweful sounds in might make myself, or interviewing 6 Colorado hunting guides and outfitters with experiences with it, 3 professional wildlife biologists with experiences, and a whole slew of other bowhunters and other wilderness seeking people with sightings and track finds. I looked at those awesome 19 inch tracks from the Eagle River and just shake my head as to how some person hoaxed them so damn convincing to me and everyone involved in the investigation. It is ridiculous and beyond reality that some 900 pound creature with 19 inch long feet is walking around Colorado in the 21st century.
I look at that film that Rodger Patterson made in the 1960’s, and can identify most of the major muscle masses in form and natural flexation, realize its extreme bulk, outsize chest width, arms bending in the wrong place by scientific comparison, watch the smooth movement and joint rotational axis, know the 7 idiots that claim to have been the “man in the gorilla suit”, realize that no computer graphics or even very good gorilla suits or makeup art existed in the 60’s by comparison, realize the film was made by a rodeo cowboy and not a hollywood makeup artist, and think that maybe I am getting to see a female member of a species that made 19 inch tracks that I investigated myself. I guess I just say forget the media hype and look at the Patterson film real close and use a measuring device on every frame of the film like I have and come to your own conclusion. Even if sasquatch does not exist in Colorado, I think it might have in California in the late 1960’s. Go back and look at that one comparitive photo I pasted above and see how many muscle groups you can name from anatomy class and then go look at the 1970’s era Chewbaca suit and see how many muscle groups you can identify in the Chewbaca suit?
If you look at the upper arms of the Patterson film creature, I guess they are quite a bit larger than Shaq’s thighs, in spite of her similar height. It would be a moot point to compare her girly figure to a photo of “the worlds strongest man”, because she dwarfs him in musculature. You can do it if you want, because photos of both are available. I just wanted you to know the scientific proof of the massiveness and flexion points of the creature in the Patterson film. If you watch the film frame by frame, you will also notice that it curls and extends its hands from time to time while walking, which is an interesting part of the gorilla suit with extended arms.
Just this last week yet another person has come forth to say he was the man in the gorilla suit. He said that Patterson ordered a gorilla suit from some novelty supply place in the east and that he wore it in the film. Looks just like a 1960’s era gorilla suit doesn’t it?
I just watched a program on PBS TV about the Inca of South America. The European anthropologist talking on the program was climbing at high altitude, without oxygen, and commenting on “how did those ancient Incan people climb to these heights?”. Geez, You would have thought he was some kind of super human European and belittling the Incan peoples of old. It was like “I can get up here but how did some backward stupid indian get up here